Teachings of Imam Mehdi

#AskYounusAlGohar - The Definition of God

Friday, July 25, 2014

The following is a transcript of His Holiness Younus AlGohar's response to questions from an aspirant at the MFI Headquartres in London, UK. 

Question: What is the definition of God? What defines God? 

I have never heard such a question before; it is a good question. And what is a human being? You will be very happy to know what God is but I don't think you will be happy to know what a human being is.  

God is an individual who came out from the divine atmosphere, the divine field of the Unseen World. He said that the primary purpose, why he created human beings, was to be known. Let me give you an example: we want big cars, a lot of money and big palaces. If God says to you, 'Okay, I will give you as much money as you want, as many cars ranging from Range Rovers and Land Rovers to Bentleys, Aston Martins and Lamborghinis. You name it,' but God would say, 'you can have all this, but you will have to live alone by yourself. There would be no one in front of whom you would take pride in these things.' Then you would say, 'What is the point of having all these things if I am alone?' These desires of having expensive things, most of the time it is not to enjoy luxury but to show off. It is in the human nature. 

Let's talk about genes. Now medical science has advanced to a degree [where it can determine] your blood group and the likelihood of having different types of diseases and illnesses. If the mother and father have any disease, the child will [likely] inherit it because these things run in the family, in the genes. My question to you is:  if a man, the creation of God, is good, this has been gifted to him by God. If a man is bad, where has this badness come from? [When] nobody existed for except God?  

Come out from the shell of God and his kingdom. It's sickening, isn't it? We have been made fools for the past billions of years. 'God, god, god', 'This is bad, this is good; this is right, this is wrong.' Human beings are so dull; they think they are very smart and clever. Just look at how everybody is condemning Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi; but God said, 'I created shar (mischief) and khair (goodness) both.' The question is, 'Dear God, what was the problem? Why did you create shar?'  

Quran said with reference to God,

وَلَقَدْ ذَرَأْنَا لِجَهَنَّمَ كَثِيرًا مِّنَ الْجِنِّ وَالْإِنسِ

[Quran 7:179]

'I created a majority of humanity for hellfire and the majority of Jinn for hellfire.'

When you have created most of human beings for hellfire, do you expect them to be good and do good in this world? No. There are only a few who are good. The rest of humanity has always been corrupted. Don't go [on the fact that they recite a] Kalima (Declaration of Faith); Yazid bin Mauwiya, Abu Sufiyan, and Omar bin Khattab all used to recite the same Kalima. But reciting the Kalima doesn't mean you are holy. So many people have His Divine Eminence Gohar Shahi's pictures on their [social media] ID's. It doesn't mean they love HDE Gohar Shahi or that they are good people. So many people recite 'La Ilaha Illa Riaz' but it doesn't mean La Ilaha Illa Riaz is in their heart or soul. They may be saying it on the tip of their tongue and it may not have entered their hearts and souls. If you say, 'HDE Gohar Shahi is Imam Mehdi,' the truth of this sentence has to be in your heart in form of Noor (Divine Energy). Your heart should believe that HDE Gohar Shahi is Imam Mehdi. When your heart believes that, then no matter what calamity strikes you, in the moment of strife, your heart will stand by. Your heart will make you steadfast and you will say, 'No matter what happens now, this is my belief and I will die with this belief. You can't change my heart.'  

I wanted to tell you that [it in is your nature] to have something in your possession and then to [want to] have somebody to witness it.

The taste of the pudding is not in eating it anymore; the taste of the pudding is in showing it off.

For example, if there was no man or woman in the world, would you wear any clothes? The principle object of putting on clothes is to cover intimate parts of your body. So, this nature in human beings came from God. 

He said he was in the hidden treasure and he wanted to be known. So, he created fools. He created everybody so that he may be known; now you are fools because you are not asking him, 'You created us so that we may know you, but where are you? How do we know you?' You will see a Shaitan (Satan) standing every two feet away from you but you will not find a trace of God. You will find all sorts of Shaitans these days: without beards, with beards, with imamah (turbans), without imamah, in the mosque - everywhere; but you will not find a trace of God. Although the principle objective of God, because of which he created human beings, was that he wanted to be known. How would human beings know him when there is no trace of God?   

He has some really very strict protocol. If you read the Quran with the eye of a highly acclaimed critic, then you will understand what he is talking about.  For example he says,

وَإِذْ تَأَذَّنَ رَبُّكُمْ لَئِن شَكَرْتُمْ لَأَزِيدَنَّكُمْ ۖ وَلَئِن كَفَرْتُمْ إِنَّ عَذَابِي لَشَدِيدٌ

[Quran 14:7]

'If you thank me, I will give you more. If you don't thank me, then I won't give you anymore.'

Prophet Mohammad said, 'One who cannot thank a man, how can he thank God?' Because to say 'thank you', you have to admit that somebody has done a favour to you. Some people are so egoistic that they don't want to say it. Saying 'thank you' and saying 'sorry' is also a big thing for some people.  

So God said, 'Those who do not thank me, I don't give them anymore.' It is not like you say 'Thank you God for giving me this.' It is not a one-time thing; you have to keep saying it. You should be doing nothing else but [thanking him]. That is what God wants. He wants to blow his own trumpet and at the same time he wants all his creation to keep blowing his trumpet. That is what I understand from the Quran. 

Surah Rahman says,

فَبِأَيِّ آلَاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ

[Quran 55:38]

And how many of the favours of your Lord will you deny? 

[On the other hand], in Hadiths, Prophet Mohammad SAW advised all human beings, 'When you do a favour to somebody, then don't say it. If you help somebody, make sure the other person should not know what you are doing.' This is what Prophet Mohammad SAW teaches us and God is doing the opposite. 

God is God. If he does something wrong, do not expect God to say sorry. The moment he realises he has done something wrong, then he doesn't talk about love or mercy. Instantly, he switches on his ghazb (divine anger). He knows that when he is angry, nobody can ask him a question. At least this is what happened between God and Prophet Mohammad. Prophet Mohammad wanted to ask God a favour and before he would ask him, do you know what he said to Prophet Mohammad? 'Oh Mohammad, make sure you do not turn into a Mushrik (polytheist).' Prophet Mohammad said, 'Okay, forget about what I wanted to ask him.' 

God is carefree. I just say one sentence for God: you want your human beings to do good. The human beings should purify themselves. We become good, we have a wife, we have children, we have to earn our bread and butter, we have to differentiate between haq (the truth) and batil (falsehood) and halal (permissible) and haram (prohibited). But can you come down on Earth and, in this character,  fit in for 24 hours?

We're not great supporters of God. We are not afraid of God, forget about al-Baghdadi. Trust me: don't trust him. He said one thing in the Quran and another in the Bible.  

Somebody asked His Divine Eminence Gohar Shahi, 'Is Jesus really Son of God?' HDE Gohar Shahi said, 'Maybe when he was in a special state of spirituality, the truth might have slipped off his tongue.' His Divine Eminence did not say anything against it.  

But this is not the only case where [someone] was believed to be the Son of God. There was a chain of female Adams and they would produce children without any men; they used to think the same, that these are children of God. Adam Safi Allah was created in heaven and there were already human beings on Earth, so when he was thrown into Earth, people thought, 'He came from up there. He must be Son of God.' He was the first one to be believed to be Son of God.  

All this mischief is not created by human beings. Honestly, this is how it is designed. One thing is new: nobody could ever imagine saying this kind of thing about God before the arrival of Imam Mehdi.

What happens after death? Nobody reported from their grave; it is all hearsay. When you die, you can't say anything. You haven't seen it with your own eyes, you haven't heard [it] with your own ears. People are afraid of God. 10 years ago, when I would say something similar to what I just said, after the speech, if I was going out and I fell on the ground, I would think, 'God is punishing me.' But then I realised, 'No. It is all here in our mind.' It is just psychological nonsense.  

This is not justice. He doesn't like people who have jealousy, but he can't stand the sight of anybody else. If he loves somebody, then that somebody cannot love anybody else. Prophet Mohammad loved Hussain and Hassan, [his grandsons], and Prophet Mohammad would ask them to sit on his shoulders and he would [play] horsey and camel with them. There was so much love in Prophet Mohammad's heart for Hussain and Hassan. God didn't like it. He said, 'They have to die.' He signed the papers. They had to die because when you love God, you cannot love anybody else. That is God.  

If you love your wife and you have a child, and you are loving the child as well, I don't think your wife will object. But God has this problem. Hussain is from God, Hassan is from God, Fatima is from God but Prophet Mohammad cannot share that love with them. He must only love God. You are married - if God was in your shoes, do you know what he would do? He would make big banners, he would put your wife's name and say, 'Make sure only I am your husband. Do not look here, do not look there. No other man in this universe is your husband. If you find another husband in place of me, then I would send you to jail.' That is what he would do. 

He says,

إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَغْفِرُ أَن يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَٰلِكَ لِمَن يَشَاءُ ۚ وَمَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ افْتَرَىٰ إِثْمًا عَظِيمًا

[Quran 4:48]

'I can forgive any sin, but I cannot forgive a man who finds a partner with me.'

He cannot forgive you if you said, 'There is another one like God.' If you say that, you have closed the door of mercy on you. We don't say it; we say, 'There is nobody like you; only greater than you.' From the bottom of my heart and soul, I truly believe Gohar Shahi is greater than Allah (God). How great? There is no comparison.  

This is God. 

And human beings? There is only one example for human beings: a puppet. You are like a puppet in the hands of God. You have no power, no authority; you only have desires.

You are the king of desires. Go to Palestine: you will see helplessness from a very close proximity. Palestine is surrounded by Arab countries, and they're still dying. They're all Muslim countries, yet they're still dying. They are calling upon the Pakistan Army, not Saudi Arabia. The Saudi Arabians are called  'Khadim Haramain Sharifain' (Protector of the Noble Sanctuaries) but they are not protectors. They are not Muslims; they are not human beings. The Prophet Mohammad cursed them. 

Question: Why did people believe Jesus to be God? 

Jesus said to everybody, 'Adam came to you. He was not worthy of you. Moses came and Abraham came; they were not worthy. I will take you to the Kingdom of God. I will give you new life. Those who came before me, they didn't know anything. I will give you what no eyes have ever imagined, I will give you something which no hearts have ever wished for. I will take you to the Kingdom of God.' 

It was when he said such things and the nature of the miracles that he performed [due to which people believed him to be God]. He just touched people and the blind were able to see. He touched dead people and the life was restored in them. No prophet did that before, no prophet at all. Even in the circles of Islam, people asked the Ulema (Islamic clerics), 'What is Prophet Mohammad's miracle?' They say, 'The miracle of Prophet Mohammad is the Quran.' The Quran is Divine Revelation but they have said it is a miracle. So it is apparent that people experienced things that they never even heard of. They were compelled to believe that Jesus was something special. But then came the drop scene, when he was crucified in such a hideous way that all the impression that Jesus left on humanity was nullified. They thought, 'He is Son of God. He has [so much] power.' But when they saw he was crucified, that he couldn't do anything, that's it. People forgot about it.  

His Divine Eminence RA Gohar Shahi - Rab al Arbab

Then we are talking about His Divine Eminence Gohar Shahi as Rab al Arbab (The Grand God) and people in Kotri have made a grave. Here we talk about Rab al Arbab, there they invite people to visit the grave. The more we talk about the reality, the more they talk about the grave. But there is nothing in the grave; it is empty. How can you believe that death has anything to do with HDE Gohar Shahi? This is not our supposition, this is not our concocted philosophy, this is not something that we believe unassisted. It is based on what HDE Gohar Shahi said. HDE Gohar Shahi said, 'I am immortal.' This is why the Religion of God (Divine Love) says that HDE Gohar Shahi has to come back again. The time is not far when you will see His Divine Eminence walking and talking here.  

I remember, one day, there was a pimple on HDE's thumb and there was pus in it. It was really painful. HDE said to me, 'Bring me a blade. I want to remove it. When I remove the pus, then there will be no pain.' I said, 'No, don't do it, it will be very painful.' HDE Gohar Shahi said, 'No, just bring it.' I brought a blade and just when HDE was about to cut, I held HDE's hand. I said, 'No, please don't do it. I'll give you [painkiller] tablets.' HDE said, 'Okay.' Now, honest to God, HDE said, 'Lift your head.' HDE said, 'I am standing here.' HDE [was] standing there and I [was] holding HDE's hand, but HDE [was] standing [above]. HDE said, 'I am Gohar Shahi, not him [whose hand you are holding].' HDE said, 'This body has nothing to do with me.' Then HDE said, 'Bring the blade.' HDE put the blade on his wrist; nothing happened. Then HDE put the blade on the other body; blood came out. HDE said, 'This is Imam Mehdi.' It is all Noor (Divine Energy), [there is] no blood. HDE said, 'This [other body] is just a jussa (sub-spirit); it is not me.' 

Hazrat Ali said, '"Rab al Arbab (The Grand God)" will be written on the thigh of Imam Mehdi.' The Bible said, 'The King of all Kings will come.' Jesus said, 'My father will come.' Allah is his brother, not his father. HDE Gohar Shahi said, 'It is written in the Jewish Holy Scripture that the sons of God will come on Earth.' Somebody asked HDE, 'Who are they?' HDE replied, 'Who knows? Maybe they are some from among you.' 

There is no trace of God in this world. If a product is launched and greatly advertised on television, electronic media, print media, social media, but nobody knows where to buy that product, then it is useless. You have the Quran, Bible, Torah, Talmud, etc. but where will you find a trace of God? Nobody knows.

It is not that we are saying anything bad about him. It is not that we don't accept him as the creator of this universe. But we have our own objections. For example, when you created this world, why did you create a majority of human beings for hellfire? Why didn't you create good people in majority so that we would have some peace in this world? Now everybody is holding a gun, killing other human beings. Hatred, jealously, arrogance and deceit is all you get to see here in this world. There is no peace, no love, no true friendship and no harmonious meetings with other human beings. It is just a hateful society.  

If you had two wives, you would never want them to live together because there would be mischief every day. If you do, you are a fool. But what did God do? Everybody is living here: [those who are] hateful, deceitful, mischievous, etc. I don't know his plan and his nature. Maybe he likes to see strife in the society, maybe he likes to see people suffering.  

He is God but he is not the God of love. He is love but he is not the God of love. In love, he does not fulfil the requirement of love. We all believe Prophet Mohammad is the Beloved of God. But you don't treat your beloved like he treated Prophet Mohammad.

He is just talks; this is why you have the Bible, Talmud, Torah, Quran. He keeps saying things; sometimes he says things he doesn't mean. Most of the time, he says things that he doesn't even preach to himself. He says, 'Do not be arrogant,' but he is arrogant. He says, 'Do not hold grudges,' but he holds grudges for people.

In Arab countries, [one man is] the Prime Minister, the Foreign Minister, the Commander in Chief, etc. In the UAE, the same person has 11 ranks and he doesn't know anything. In a similar way, God himself is Love, he himself is Lover and he himself is the Beloved. Is it possible that you yourself are the husband, you yourself are the wife and you yourself are your daughter? But he is. He occupies all three ranks himself. 

God says, 'And how many of the favours of your Lord will you deny?' If you are really majestic and great, you wouldn't care about the favours. Being God, this is cheap [for you to say]. If I was saying it, it suits me: I am a human being. Even then, people upon hearing this statement would say, 'If you didn't want to do favours, you shouldn't have done it.' If you have done favours, now keep your mouth shut.

'And will you still deny the favours of your Lord?' What favour? A majority of human beings and jinns will go into hellfire. Is this a great favour upon humanity? Look at him. Do you know what he says about human beings? 'I created you from a dirty drop of semen.' [Quran 14:6] What do you expect Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to speak like? Some really serious-minded human beings find it very offensive. You are reading the Quran to find guidance and God is swearing at you. God is saying, 'O' human beings, you are the product of dirty drop of semen.' But that is what it is.  

You take pride [in the fact that] you created us with a dirty drop. Do you know what I understand? You created me with a dirty drop because you didn't have a pure drop. If we are the creation of a dirty drop, is this our decision? The question is, why did he do that? How did this thought come into your mind that you should create human beings with a dirty drop?

Animals have more value today than human beings. An animal is never asked, 'What religion do you practise?' A dog can travel free of trouble; in British airports, American airports and Australian airports. If you are a human being, [you are in trouble].  This is the creation of God. This creation is bad not because they have a choice of being good or bad. They are bad because they are born bad. They don't have a choice. We are justified to say, 'So-and-so can take a shower and [should] stop stinking.' He can do it, but what if he was stinking when he was born?  

Question: Why does God praise himself all the time? 

Because he knows nobody else will praise him. Although, he made sure and said, 'Keep praising me while you are sleeping, keep praising me while you are standing, keep praising me while you are sitting.' [Quran 3:191] Having said all this, he still believes nobody will praise him so he is praising himself. 

If HDE Gohar Shahi does a favour to you, forget about telling others; you won't notice yourself that HDE Gohar Shahi has done this favour to you. [He does it] silently, quietly. For example, if you came to HDE Gohar Shahi and you said, 'HDE, enlighten my heart,' maybe HDE would say, 'I can't do it, I'm sorry.' But you know what? When you go home, you would feel [that] your heart is enlightened.

HDE Gohar Shahi will give you something but will not say, 'I have given it you.' Never. HDE Gohar Shahi never said, 'Praise me.' Whenever anybody wanted to praise HDE Gohar Shahi, HDE said, '[Be] quiet.' HDE Gohar Shahi does not know hatred but even then, HDE hates to be known. He hates showing off. Look at HDE's pictures; you will see how simple HDE keeps Himself. So modest and humble! You know, when HDE Gohar Shahi mentioned about Himself that He came from the Unseen World, HDE did not mention the word, 'I'. HDE said, 'Jesus came from the Unseen World; Idrees and Ilyas came from the Unseen World. And Gohar Shahi also came from there.' HDE didn't say, 'I came from there.' Look at the way HDE is explaining [it]. There is no trace of pride, no trace of arrogance.  

HDE Gohar Shahi's understanding is, 'If there is something, then people would see it. Why should I say it?' If I am wearing perfume, then you will smell it if your nose is [functioning properly]; if your nose is not functioning properly, then what is the point of telling you that there is a smell? In a similar way, HDE says, 'Why should I tell people who I am? Sit here and see for yourself, and recognise me. If you can recognise me, then [there is] no problem. But if you cannot recognise me, then I will not tell you who I am.' HDE doesn't make claims. Even in Hadiths, Prophet Mohammad said, 'Imam Mehdi will never say he is Imam Mehdi.'   


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